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LES ENFANTS TERRIBLES: A CONVERSATION BETWEEN JASON DEEH PITRE (THE SCROLL) & VADA CALLISTO (TROMA)

Updated: Apr 6


J Deeh is a critically acclaimed artist, musician, world renowned busker, filmmaker, actor, personality and writer. He is currently the frontman of the band The Scroll. J Deeh wrote and directed two independent feature films, Affinity Point and Do You Truss Me?. In the past, he worked for various adult companies and was one of the leading Canadian directors in the genre.

In 2015-16, saw J Deeh being a regular on the Elisa Jordana/Benjy Bronk (The Howard Stern Show) spreecast show Kermit and Friends and a contributor for dnn.com.

In late June 2016, a video featuring a duet between Jason and Grammy award winner Seal became a viral sensation. This month, The Scroll has release their new album, Zizi Mortel (Check it out here: https://thescroll.bandcamp.com/album/zizi-mortel).

Vada Callisto is an actress, alternative model and personality. She has won various titles for the Nudes-A-Poppin’ contest and has been featured in various magazines like Cheri Magazine, Club International, Outlaw Biker Magazine (to name a few).

She has appeared on various shows like Playboy TV’s 69 Sexy Things 2 Do Before You Die and The Jeanine Pirro Show, all while producing and writing her own pet projects like the web series Blanket Fort. She is a proud Tromette and has recently starred in Troma’s #shakespearsshitstorm.

J Deeh and Vada had the following conversation over tea and Spaghetti. The date is December 12th, 2019. The subjects vary between KAF and the Howard Stern Show, touring, The Scroll, busking, Seal, Ron Jeremy, Jeanine Pirro, Nudes-a-Poppin’, Affinity Point, Do You Truss Me?, Playboy TV, Zizi Mortel, the Anand Jon scandal, Troma, #shakespearesshitstorm and life in general.

JDP: When did we first know of each other's existence? Wasn't it on one of the after-shows for my silly documentary (Defamed: The People vs Jasouche Douchon)?

VADA: I feel like it was either on Blab or the couple episodes I peeped in on Kermit & Friends (an internet video chat show). If the after-show was on Blab then that was a possibility.

JDP: You were never on Kermit & Friends right?

VADA: I was on KAF once.

JDP: Really? Maybe I wasn't on the show during that one. Elisa and I weren't really on speaking terms near the end, so I wasn't as present.

VADA: Yeah. Some guy called ‘Chad’ told me to go on. I called in. I looked all innocent. Had glasses on and a braid. I was put on hold forever and maybe talked for a moment before there were technical issues.

JDP: I felt that we became 'internet friends' in a weird 'subconscious way'. I don't remember the first time we chatted or talked or where I met you. It's like you just appeared in my feed a lot.

VADA: I guess, it's ‘Douche!’ who brought us together.

(NOTE: Douche! was one of the contributors for Kermit and Friends until he left to form DNN and Blanket Fort.)

JDP: It was definitely Douche!, although indirectly.

VADA: I actually stole Douche! from KAF.

JDP: How so?

VADA: I saw a naughty monkey and wanted to play.

VADA: That was the end of Douche! on KAF and Blanket Fort, Douche! & I's variety show, began.

JDP: You convinced him?

VADA: I just said "I want the monkey!" and I had the monkey.

JDP: If you said 'you want the monkey' and had the monkey, it was probably your pretty smile that had something to do with it too.

VADA: It was the crazy in my eyes! Don't let the smile fool you! You became a contributor on Blanket Fort and that is how I knew of you more.

JDP: Yeah, but by that time, I was becoming exhausted with internet video shows. I had put a lot of energy on Elisa's show for months and it didn't end well. My 'bits' seemed simple, but they were difficult at times because of the restricted medium of the show. For Blanket Fort, I wanted to help more, but I had moved on from video chat shows. I always had a love for comedy and I had done a year on those shows, but I had to focus on my band and other projects. Then the thing with Seal happened...

VADA: What types of bits were you doing on KAF?

JDP: I was doing all kinds of bits. At first, the audience was hating on me like they were everyone else, because they were basically Howard Stern’s audience, but then I got creative, relaxed and focused on being 'entertaining' and irreverent. I grew up with a Canadian SNL type show called Bizarre and I liked their kind of naughty, irreverent humour. Elisa loved it most of the time, but near the end, she thought I was being too ‘risque’. But folks like Douche! began to like my stuff and I dug what he was doing too, so we struck up a friendship. It was around this time that some of the audience thought we were the same person.

VADA: What is too ‘risque’ for people who came from the loins of the Howard Stern Show?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nIMSWb4DB4

JDP: Too risky for Elisa, I meant. Elisa never had Stern's brand of humour. I don't think she understood the audience she had. That’s why a lot of her audience ‘hate watched’ her show. She’s looked pretty and could be pleasant, but she wasn’t a comic or anything. Her vision was to have a sweet show. I just think I was being too ‘sexual’ and naughty, at times. I wanted to bring it to a Stern sensibility. She didn’t like ‘naughty’ jokes. I liked having her as the straight (wo)man. I think Douche! and I, along with a handful of others, really helped her show be funny and entertaining. But when Douche! and Elisa had their falling out, that’s when all that 'Jason is Douche' thing happened. It was weird, because I still don’t get it. Maybe it’s because Douche! and I had the same sense of humour and that we did bits. I never got a twitter hate mob after me before. It was a little intense. Some were taking it way too seriously. Then, I began to go 'hey, man, I *told* you I'm not Douche! motherfucker!'. That's when I decided to do that web-documentary to clear my name. It was very tongue in cheek, though. I knew this wasn’t real life. Anyway, it was a thing. It was silly. A year of my life. It's over now. I do miss it sometimes, but I'm glad it's over. The trick is to not take it too seriously. But it was a lot bad energy at times, even though I wasn’t taking it too seriously at first. Some people were, which was super creepy. Still, I wasn’t use to that. Even though Elisa and Benjy (Bronk, from the Howard Stern Show) did me raw near the end, I still cherish the time I went to New York City to hang with them. Everyone was really nice. Elisa was really cool. Benjy let me sleep on his couch. It was surreal. Benjy was like a real celebrity for me because I would listen to The Howard Stern Show every day. Benjy acted like Benjy. It was surreal. I guess, what got to me the most was having them turn on me just for content. I was loyal and they just went after my reputation for no reason. So it was fun and stupid, but at the same time, it was also a little hurtful. I’m a stand up guy and I naively think that everyone is too. But the internet is not real life. But the fact that I met them in real life is what made it more… real. No hard feelings, though. It was ultimately fun. Anyway, enough about me, how did you grow up? What was Vada’s life before 18?

VADA: Vada grew up with divorced parents. I went to 11 different schools before I finally left school. Had good grades, honour roll, played sports, captain of the volleyball team, volunteered on my lunchtime to read and play kickball with the young special education children. I was outed as lesbian sophomore year and things got real bad. Death threats and so on…

JDP: Yeah, being a lesbian back then must of been brutal. I always thought you were bi, though.

VADA: I came out at 14 as a lesbian, but 18 as bi. I realized I was not attracted to little boys, but grown men.

JDP: Fair enough. Yeah, sexuality is a very complicated and an ever evolving thing.

VADA: Indeed. What about J Deeh? What was life like before 18?

JDP: I was born and raised on Canada's East Coast. Around 8 years old, I had an interest in music. I started recording my own songs around 10 years old. I also did silly movies with my friends. In school, I was a bad student. I knew what I wanted to be very early on. I wanted to be a songwriter. So doing math and science didn't interest me. I was a naughty kid. But not bad. I loved to do pranks in class and stuff like that. I did what I wanted, basically. I was like Joey Jeremiah in Degrassi Junior High. *Laughs* I guess, my sense of humour saved me from being insufferable with teachers and others. Around 14 years old, I began to be in bands and stuff. I did my first professional show at the age of 16 and brought the house down. I turned into this goth rocker dude. Ever since that show, I never looked back. It marked me. It was a movie-like moment. You know that scene in Back To The Future when Micheal J Fox performs at the end of the film? Well, it was like that but without the shitty solo. *Laughs*

VADA: Sounds exciting!

JDP: Yes, but it came with a lot of drama. My band's infamous reputation grew very quickly in the local scene. We were known to be 'that crazy band you can't book' because we would always cause problems. So with a local scene going nowhere, I had to move away. There was nothing for me there. Especially, after we had a shitty show opening for NOFX. Nobody really got us, I felt. I was tired of arguing with shitty soundmen and promoters who didn’t get us. The city didn’t let us play anywhere because there was underage drinking and overdoses at the shows and stuff. Then, my band kinda imploded. One member wanted to do hip hop. Another one wanted to do glitch music. I wanted to focus on the songwriting and performance. I had no choice but to move to Montreal and start fresh. I began playing with various Montreal bands, until I rebooted my own project again (The Scroll). Didn't you tour with a Metallica Tribute band?

VADA: Yes. When I realized I was bi, my first boyfriend was a drummer, originally from Nova Scotia, who started this Metallica Tribute Band "BATTERY" around 1991 in Toronto. I wouldn't meet him for another 20 years, but I toured with the band for about five years and quickly started learning road manager duties, aka glorified babysitting with Jagermeister.

JDP: Babysitting... Yeah, I get that.

VADA: I say ‘babysitting’ because late at night the staff wants to go home, and well, people want to party and there is gear that needs to be torn down, and moved. They like to hang and thank their fans everywhere they go- and know so many after decades of touring- so someone had to be the bad guy and usually the club owners came to me.

JDP: Touring is so difficult. I love it when I can do it. But it's a lot of drama and money. I usually end up being the 'responsible one', a title I reluctantly always have. While everyone is getting drunk and socializing, I would be dealing with the business side because I’m the band leader. So onstage I'd be the wildest one, but offstage I had to be this responsible person. In a way, it’s ok, because I’m very shy. I’m scared of compliments after gigs. Compliments make me awkward. I think it's because I don't do it for my ego, I do it because I have to. After a gig, I usually feel like telling the audience, 'sorry'. *Laughs* I’m socially awkward and I’m not good at being cool. *Laughs*

VADA: You have had an extensive career in entertainment spanning decades. Mainstream & adult filmmaker, actor, touring musician, dj, artist, personality, viral sensation with (Grammy Award winning artist) Seal. Do you mind if I ask you some questions about your time with Seal?

JDP: Of course.

VADA: Since many have seen the video, we are aware of your busking. How long have you been busking?

JDP: Off and on for 6 years. I sing in Old Montreal during the summer. It's fun and it's a romantic way of life. I began a few years after I lost my job as an adult director. I had money and savings, but I ran out a few years later after finishing my second film, Do You Truss Me?. So I bought a street amp with my last 400$ and I went out and sang. At first, it was very hard for me. I always saw myself as a concert hall musician, not a street performer. But I slowly grew into it. I like that many people seem to appreciate it. But these past few years, the city has been putting pressure on buskers to follow certain "rules" that is making it harder for us to make serious money. So, I might stop really soon. Tired of the city controlling me. When the people who work in offices have less rules than you and the homeless have more rights than you, then it’s probably time to get the fuck out.

VADA: That sounds pretty lousy of the city to do that. I'm sorry they are being such a killjoy on your art and happiness. I'm glad you were able to have some nice experiences, though.

JDP: It can be a great job, even though I don't like it as much as others do. I don't enjoy doing covers. I don’t even enjoy playing guitar. I like synths and sampling beats. And ever since that duet video with Seal went viral, I'm known as this one dimensional performer, which I find a tad boring. Don’t get me wrong, I cherish Seal and what we have done together, but a lot of people see me as this upcoming Ed Sheeran dude playing pretty acoustic tracks, when in my heart I feel like a David Bowie or a Prince or something like that. My music way edgier than what people expect me to be. I just hate that my summer job limits me to this 'Wedding Singer' type thing. I'm much more than that. But I get it: Million of people see me busk every year, while a small amount of those folks will check out what I’m really about. It’s frustrating, but it doesn’t mean it’s negative. It’s just complex. But I am very grateful for duetting with Seal. I’m also grateful that we’ve shared the stage a handful of times. He's a great artist.

VADA: The day you were busking and Seal heard you playing, did you notice him right away? Is this common for other popular musicians to come by and enjoy your music?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYpsr0wGcHM&t=10s

JDP: I noticed him during my set, but didn’t recognize him. I remember not playing to my full potential. I felt sick that day. I didn’t even do my hair! It’s just my luck that I looked terrible on that viral video. *Laughs* Anyway, I didn't recognize him, at first. He sat there for an hour, harmonizing with me. I would overhear him say comments under his breath after certain songs like 'wow!’ or ‘incredible!’- stuff like that. It's only after he introduced himself that I realized it was him. I've been a fan since I've been 10 years old. I even remember getting his first album when I was in Florida as a kid. I own all his albums, actually. So it was awesome to meet him. He was very cool. We sang a song together. It was probably the worse song vocally for me, but it was still fun to duet with him. We finished and then he disappeared into the crowd. But we have stayed in touch since then. I speak to him every couple of months or so. He seems to love my music and comments on it, which is very flattering. There seems to be a mutual respect. We want to work together. But timing is the issue it seems. And no, I haven't met a lot of celebrities when I busk. A few local celebrities and a couple of big ones have approached me. But the difference with Seal is that I'm actually a huge fan of his. Just a month before our duet, I remember being in bed with a lover and doing a lengthy speech about how Seal was an underrated artist. I'm sure my lover did a double take when I was on the front cover on newspapers with Seal a few months later. *Laughs* Hey, you've met your share of celebrities. Arguably, you have the most nutty one: Ron Jeremy suing you on that Judge Pirro show! How the fuck did that happen?

VADA: Ahhhhhh yes, my old pal Ron!

JDP: How did you two become friends?

VADA: I first met him at Ponderosa Sun Club for the Nudes-A-Poppin pageant. It is the world's largest and longest running outdoor nude beauty pageant. He's been the MC for something like 40 years. My first year there I cleaned house! I won the most awards out of all the ladies. That was enough to make me go back again, and again, so I had become more familiar with him from these events. I became popular because I had won so many titles they asked me to help Ron MC one year. There was a little mix up and we ended up on The Judge Jeanine Pirro Show. That was many years ago. He is actually in Troma/Lloyd Kaufman's new film with me #shakespearesshitstorm coming out in 2020. That was quite a reunion!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iErX2NVybo4

JDP: Congrats on the trophies! So it's fair to say you are very comfortable with your body. Were you always an exhibitionist?

VADA: I found that being natural, doing every day tasks like eating a sandwich or going for a golf cart ride around older folks, especially, made me more aware of what matters more about humans in general. Coming from a world of rock n’ roll- where image is everything, to where image is the least of anyone's concern- made me focus more on other's hearts, soul, and mind… Don't get me wrong, I have a tiny bit of exhibitionism in me but I'm rather shy.

JDP: In your opinion, what is your best asset physically? What asset made you win those awards, in your opinion? You have a pretty face, but it’s a body contest, so…

VADA: Well one of the awards I won was Miss Hot Legs. It was an Audience Choice Award, so the judges had nothing to do with this one. I have to tell you, though, as I stood up there I was wondering why I didn't win Miss Hot Buns and was actually sad about it. Laughable, considering how many didn't win anything and how silly the concept of rating a body part is. But there I was sad because my buns were not being called hot in that particular moment and only my legs. Typical.

JDP: It sounds like a true injustice! Your appearance on the Jeanine Pirro show seemed like it was a promotion for the Nudes-a-poppin' festival. Are you still friends with Ron? Did you guys bury the hatchet after the Jeanine Pirro show? Did you have to pay the fine Pirro imposed on you?

VADA: Ron and I are cool now. Hatchet is buried along with the fine.

JDP: Good. I have a secret crush on Jeanine Pirro. I've seen her in a few documentaries. She's a very tough cookie and a little scary. She could win UFC matches with only her stare. I'm sick, no? *Laughs*

VADA: There is a fetish out there for everything.

JDP: Working in the adult industry for 3 years have taught me that yes.

VADA: Yes, in 2006 you were directing for mainstream films and you were also one of the leading Canadian directors in adult films. How were you able to simultaneously work both industries? Is this common?

JDP: The mainstream thing was mostly contracts. Not a lot of work and not *that* mainstream, actually. Since I began to have a reputation in the Montreal local music scene with my first album (Swan Soliloquy of a Deehrelict) and our crazy shows, somebody approached me and asked if I could write music for this porn company he worked for. I thought it was a funny proposition, so I agreed to do it. But after about a week, I was hired as an audio and video editor. Then, when the director left the company a year later, I was upped as director. My first directorial debut was a hit on Pay-per-View channels. Even though it kinda sucked, it out sold Lord Of The Rings on some platforms. *Laughs* From there on, it was all up hill, until suddenly it stopped when my boss was arrested and thrown in prison for 7 years. To make a long story short, I lost my job soon after when that happened. It was a very stressful time. Around the same months, I lost my grandmother, my father and my longtime girlfriend too. My live band also broke up. So I had nothing, basically. Just a big loft I couldn’t afford and a new second album (…and the man who sees his own wraith…) that wasn’t being properly promoted. This was in 2010. I was very good at my director job, though. I didn't want to do porn. But Montreal is one of the main porn hubs in the world and if you’re in the film industry, you will probably end up working for the adult industry in one form or another. Most of those free online porn sites are based from here and I have a lot of friends who work for those companies. The work is usually easy office stuff. The best part of my job was actually the branding and finding concepts for the films. How to promote them. How to sell them. Seeing the numbers. But I was always way more interested in directing arthouse films. I'm a real hardcore cinephile. So after porn shoots, I would use the same equipment to shoot my first feature film, Affinity Point, with my co-worker Mike.

VADA: That is monstrous loss in a short amount of time. What was Affinity Point about?

JDP: Affinity Point cost 500$ (if that). I'm very proud of it now. It premiered at the Festival Du Nouveau Cinema, which is a high honour. Affinity Point is about a guy trying to find his adoptive parents in Montreal. He also falls in love with this alternative dancer who is dating a gangster. Merge The Crying Game, Wings of Desire and Paris, Texas and you get what I was going for. It's rough around the edges technically- god knows I continued editing it years after it premiered- but it’s close to my original vision now. It was a learning process for me. I hate that many people saw the unfinished product, though. I know it's hard to make people watch low budget black and white movies too.

VADA: $500 budget is fantastic! Congratulations on the fancy premiere.

JDP: I would have certainly cast you in my films if I'd known you before. *Laughs* Especially, my second one, Do You Truss Me?. You have the look and the balls.

VADA: What was that one about?

https://vimeo.com/63607326

JDP: It’s basically an intertwined story following various characters. It has Pharma drug conspiracies and alien cults. It’s basically about not being able to trust anybody (the government, religion and people in general). It’s a very paranoid movie. I wrote it after the death of my father. His death inspired some of it. It’s an extremely dark film, but I had to do it. It healed me from all the death and sadness I felt at the time. One of my successful director friends said ‘it was the most ambitious’ independent micro budget film he’d ever seen. I’m happy he said that, because it was very difficult to do. It’s not perfect, but it’s very close to my original vision. It’s a film you have to watch a few times to get all the nuance. It’s not meant to be fully decoded during a first watch. It has a lot of symbolism. Some things are not meant to be taken at face value. Some characters represent groups of people. For example, a guy might represent toxic masculinity, while another will represent impotency, and so on. It is a so-called highbrow arthouse film disguised as a thriller. Your turn: So you were on Playboy Tv? What was that experience like?

VADA: Playboy TV came to film an episode for 69 Sexy Things To Do B4 You Die at Nudes-A-Poppin and I noticed the film crew rolling around and I hollered for them to stop their golf cart. I told them I would be in Miami in a couple weeks and asked if they may need anyone for anything down there. Turns out they did! It was for an episode at Swingfest. Huge swinger takeover at a lush hotel on the ocean in Hollywood, Florida. Stormy Daniels was hosting Swingfest that year and beautiful, fun people from all over the globe were there to party. There were private events, dances, seminars, after hours, beach days, contests. They teach you the Playboy TV way of "making love" on camera. It was a learning experience for sure!

JDP: Sounds really fun! *Laughs*

VADA: It was. Good people. Memories for a lifetime.

JDP: Greatest Swingfest memory?

VADA: I stole Marey Carey's film crew, as she was done with them for the day, grabbed one of the actor guys who wheeled me around on a room service cart in my birthday suit hitting every other floor, entering all rooms with open latches with me on the cart, announcing that the party was here. We met a ton of people and got a ton of swag. The next night, people were asking why I didn't make it to their floor. It was fun. Anyway, I woke up one day with a migraine I couldn't get rid of. I was in Tampa. No one could figure out what was wrong. I had to move home to my family. I had my autoimmune thyroid issue that was undiagnosed and my body shutdown. Pushed my body too hard.

JDP: That sucks about the thyroid. Sorry to hear, ma’am.

VADA: Your band The Scroll has released four previous albums with a new one, Zizi Mortel, soon on the way. You were kind enough to allow me a sneak preview and I enjoyed what I heard. I found it dreamy as a whole. Mouthful Of Sand is a stand out favourite of mine. One to dance and sing along with. What was your inspiration behind Zizi Mortel?

JDP: Yeah, Zizi Mortel is dreamier than my previous releases, that's for sure. I was very conscious of that. I had done Constant Public Humiliation and It Will Never Come, Lover- both very New-Wave, Synthwave, electronic albums- and I wanted to pull back the synths and play my guitar a little more. Zizi Mortel (which means ‘Mortal Willy’ in English) is a more serious album too. I've had a rough couple of years and the music certainly reflects that. I wanted the beauty to be on the surface, while the darkness was the undertow, which is what The Scroll is usually about. I tackled some jazz and swing a little, which is new for me. I also put my voice as the most prominent instrument, something I almost never did before.

VADA: What can you tell me about Mouthful of Sand?

JDP: Mouthful of Sand is just a simple song about persistence. It took me years to finish. It's not a complicated song, but I couldn't find a vocal hook that I liked. I'm happy with it now. It reminds me of The Breeders' Canonball mixed with Enya, for some reason. *Laughs* I’m proud of the bass riff and the harmonies. At first, I wanted the whole album to sound like that, but I didn’t like being tied down, as usual. My albums are very eclectic because The Scroll is not meant to have just one sound. Even though I find The 1975 extremely uneven with their songwriting, at least they are interesting with their genre hopping. The Scroll is like that. It’s ambitious, not comfortable. Sometimes I step wrong, but most of the time I think I succeed. If I don't the first time, I will the second time. David Bowie and Scott Walker showed us that music and art can be a journey.

VADA: I Would Have Done It For You also caught my ear. It was sad, haunting, yet pretty. I think it has mystery. Where did this song come from?

JDP: I Would Of Done It For You is my personal favourite off the new album. I was emotional when I sang it. It's basically about wanting someone you know to save your life, but that person refuses to. It’s not about one person in particular, but lately, I’ve learned a lot about the human condition these past couple of years. It’s depressing to see social media updates of people pretending to care about all kinds of things- to virtue signal- but in reality, I feel that most people are just more hypocritical, self-obsessed and full of shit more so now than they ever were. They’re just really unhappy and want to shit on people to make themselves feel better. As for the music, you can tell I was listening to some War On Drugs. The recording has tons of recording mistakes but it’s roughly what I was going for.

VADA: I hope to have a Zizi Mortel t-shirt now that I am aware of meaning.

JDP: I’m happy you brought up I Would Of Done It For You. Proud of that one. I think people will ignore it, though, since it’s not the most flamboyant of my songs and it’s near the end of the album. But who knows what people like? I’m a bad judge of that.

VADA: So Zizi Mortel is a somewhat cathartic album?

JDP: Some songs off of Zizi Mortel are about a relationship disintegrating. Some of those songs have female vocals from a lover of mine. We were breaking up around the time we sang it. It was strange and very meta. It was hard to focus. It was like painting in a fog. The other half of the songs are downers. *Laughs* A lot of it is about betrayal. But the melodies keeps the album from being insufferable, hopefully. *Laughs*

VADA: Interesting dynamic. It was well received on my end. Hopefully, it was cathartic not just for you both but your future listeners.

JDP: Yeah. Art is obviously cathartic for the artist. It closes the wound a lot of the time. That's why I never needed a shrink, I think. I can laugh and criticize myself and others through my music and films. It changes me, hopefully for the better. I like to keep the demons close by, but not in control my life, you know? It's that dance that can make things interesting. Happy people usually don't make good music. *Laughs* Speaking of demons… Back in 2004, you were caught up in that Anand Jon scandal. If it's not too sensitive, can you shed a light on that? Sounds nuts, man!

VADA: Sure. He was a designer for the powerful and the stars. Now he is in prison for life. He abused his position to lure underaged girls and young women hoping to have a career in fashion. It was a high profile trial. Multiple victims. Multiple states. I modelled for him at one of his runway shows. I was assaulted. I turned down interviews with 20/20 and standing next to Gloria Allred and this is the most I've spoken publicly about it ever.

JDP: Ok. We'll leave it at that. The dude is just creepy. Those stories make me sad. Especially Bill Cosby, who I grew up with. Using power like that is just... anyway... So you and Troma happened!

VADA: It did! About 4 different roads merged: Ron Jeremy & Lemmy I knew from my rock n roll lifestyle and they had both acted in several Troma films. A person who helped show me how to live a different way about six years ago had played guitar on a soundtrack or two for Troma. I may have caught Lloyd on KAF.

JDP: I remember that interview! Lloyd was pissed at Elisa! Great show that was!

VADA: Oh, and I was sick in bed watching a ton of Criminal Minds and one of the actors tweeted a photo with Lloyd and The Toxic Avenger. Lemmy had just passed, and all these things just happened as I was making Blanket Fort and Lloyd Kaufman tagged me with the New York Times for an event in London, Ontario. I took it as a sign that I *had* to go there for this convention and make up a story about why I was going, you know, to a city I had never been to before. Luckily, I ran into some folks I met a few months before while I was in Toronto who I hung out with, but that started the Troma adventure! Lloyd invited me to another convention that was closer to my town to be a Tromette and I got to know more of the Troma Team.

JDP: Then Lloyd offered you a part in his new movie?

VADA: I had been a Tromette for a year or two. Troma put out a casting call and I emailed the casting director and sent in an audition.

JDP: Where was the film shot?

VADA: Some of #shakespearesshitstorm was filmed in Albania with Albanian crew. They just had a terrible earthquake and I hope they are all alright and rebuilding. The principle photography was shot mostly in Queens & some in Brooklyn. The day at Coney Island was freezing!

JDP: What part do you play?

VADA: I play Puck. A magical character!

JDP: One of my favourite things Troma puts out are the 'making ofs'. I love seeing the conflicts onset. Did Lloyd blow his stack? Did some crew members quit, as usual?

VADA: *Laughs* We tried to keep him from losing it! Lloyd made everyone watch Poultry In Motion before we began filming so we were all on the same page and knew what to expect. We lost some crew members along the way. Not sure what they were expecting. Lloyd was pretty cool for most of production. Maybe he was happier directing in a dress. Later into production is when things get heated and everyone is exhausted so there will be some decent feature length behind the scenes for #shakespearesshitstorm titled Brown Is The Warmest Color.

JDP: I hope we see more of him freaking out. My favourite making of is Apocalypse Soon from my favourite Troma film Citizen Toxie. Even though my own sets were never as explosive as Troma’s, I still feel visceral emotions while watching those making ofs. My second film, Do You Truss Me?, was so ambitious that I’m shocked I kept it together and pulled it off without having an actual crew. I was very lucky that hardly nobody quit and things went smoothly. Only once did an actor walk off set halfway through a scene because he thought I was making a porn or something. He refused to take off his shirt for a love scene and got in my face. I handed him the money and he fucked off. I ended up being his stunt double. He made me feel like I was this sleazy director or something. It affected me a lot, at the time. Another time, I had this dude who was always cancelling our shoots at the last second because of his drug habit, and when he finally agreed to show up, he said he only had 30 minutes, but in fact, I needed 3 hours. So I had two of my big beefy friends hang around set to intimidate him until the shooting was done. He soooo wanted to quit and walk off, but there was no way I was gonna let that happen. Those were the only times I had Troma drama that would have been worth having on a ‘making of’. Oh, and maybe when the hotel we were shooting in thought we were carrying real guns in the hallway during an action scene. It was a mess! I can laugh about it now. But I wasn't laughing then.*Laughs*

VADA: *Laughs*

JDP: I hope to see the film soon. And I hope you do more Troma, miss!

VADA: Thank you. I hope so too! Tromaville is a wild place and I'm glad it exists. I hope to see more films from you in the future!

JDP: I have ideas. But films are hard to do. It’s a lot of energy and not a lot of money in return. Do You Truss Me? didn't play in a lot of theatres. It was three hours long and didn't have any known actors. I'm very proud of it, but it was just draining. Had a great time doing it with my friends, though. An artist wants to create, but he also wants an audience too. Everything is so flooded now. But I do have ideas for a next film. Sort of like a dark timetravel/romance film with a nutty twist. Ok, now for some quick questions for both of us. I have these classic interview questions I stole from a site.

VADA: *Laughs* Ok. Let’s do it!

JDP: Happiest moment in your life?

VADA: This is not quick!

JDP: True. I couldn’t even answer that one. It’s too dramatic. Favourite sex position?

VADA: Cuddling.

JDP: Not cuddling.

VADA: *Laughs*

JDP: Favourite film? Mine is Michael Mann’s Heat.

VADA: There are so many possibilities. Bound.

JDP: Bound is a good movie. Gina and Jennifer are at their peak. Very well done.

VADA: It definitely was.

JDP: Favourite tv show? I love many tv shows like The Wire, Mad Men, Breaking Bad, Miami Vice, Twin Peaks and Curb Your Enthusiasm, but for me the ultimate is still Game Of Thrones, even though the last season is controversial, I loved it anyway. People need to chill on the hate.

VADA: Rhoda, The Mary Tyler Moore Show, The Dick Van Dyke Show, Doc Martin…

JDP: We are not synching with the tv shows, I see! What your greatest strength and your greatest weakness?

VADA: My will. For both.

JDP: Women for both.

VADA: *Laughs*

JDP: Improvising here! What are you most proud of? For me, it’s my art. Wow, that’s a boring answer.

VADA: The fact that I've somehow managed to stay alive this long.

JDP: Biggest regret? For me, it’s not believing in myself, at times. Another boring answer.

VADA: Probably letting that child predator lady from the internet come pick me up and take me across state lines when I was a teenager.

JDP: Wait. A child predator lady?

VADA: Yeah.

JDP: I never heard of that. It's usually men. Sorry to hear that. Good intriguing answer, though. What’s your pastime?

VADA: Watching movies or shows.

JDP: Other than watching movies, I like to look at beautiful houses and architecture online. I like eating at exotic restaurants. I like dancing. I like reading about other countries. Usually dangerous ones. Guilty pleasure? For me, it’s liking Jem and the Holograms and eurodance music. I also watch terrible youtubers.

VADA: Giant hogs.

JDP: Motorbikes?

VADA: No.

JDP: Do you mean a real hog or a pig?

VADA: No.

JDP: ‘Hog’ is also a slang for penis… *Laughs*

VADA: It is!

JDP: So it’s not motorbikes?

VADA: No.

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